Problems with DNS 1.1.1.1

dns Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 with problems with the following addresses
apps.na.collabserv.com
mail.notes.na.collabserv.com

ping mail.notes.na.collabserv.com
PING e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net (23.12.125.138): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 23.12.125.138: icmp_seq = 0 ttl = 47 time = 213.106 ms
64 bytes from 23.12.125.138: icmp_seq = 1 ttl = 47 time = 213.008 ms

ping apps.na.collabserv.com
PING e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net (23.12.125.138): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 23.12.125.138: icmp_seq = 0 ttl = 47 time = 213.096 ms
64 bytes from 23.12.125.138: icmp_seq = 1 ttl = 47 time = 212.845 ms

With dns google 8.8.8.8 all addresses work and respond to ping … I know it’s an HCL Verse mail farm

With 1.1.1.1 the address 96.17.26.207 that is from the same Verse farm does not respond

dns Cloudflare with problems with the following addresses
apps.na.collabserv.com
mail.notes.na.collabserv.com

that point to the next ip 96.17.26.207 … with google dns if it works

Which problems?

They both resolve just fine for me

nslookup apps.na.collabserv.com 1.1.1.1
Server:  one.one.one.one
Address:  1.1.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net
Address:  23.37.41.235
Aliases:  apps.na.collabserv.com
	  waa-cac1-cd.ibmsmartcloud.com.edgekey.net





nslookup mail.notes.na.collabserv.com 1.1.1.1
Server:  one.one.one.one
Address:  1.1.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net
Address:  23.37.41.235
Aliases:  mail.notes.na.collabserv.com
	  waa-cac1-cd.ibmsmartcloud.com.edgekey.net

With 1.1.1.1

MacBook-Pro-de-Danny:~ danny$ ping apps.na.collabserv.com
PING e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net (96.17.26.207): 56 data bytes
Request timeout for icmp_seq 0
Request timeout for icmp_seq 1
^C
e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net ping statistics —
3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss
MacBook-Pro-de-Danny:~ danny$
MacBook-Pro-de-Danny:~ danny$
MacBook-Pro-de-Danny:~ danny$ ping mail.notes.na.collabserv.com
PING e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net (96.17.26.207): 56 data bytes
Request timeout for icmp_seq 0
Request timeout for icmp_seq 1
Request timeout for icmp_seq 2

Thats ping, not a DNS lookup.

Please post the output of these four commands

nslookup apps.na.collabserv.com 1.1.1.1
nslookup mail.notes.na.collabserv.com 1.1.1.1
nslookup e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net 1.1.1.1
nslookup e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net 8.8.8.8

MacBook-Pro-de-Danny:~ danny$ nslookup apps.na.collabserv.com 1.1.1.1
Server: 1.1.1.1
Address: 1.1.1.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
apps.na.collabserv.com canonical name = waa-cac1-cd.ibmsmartcloud.com.edgekey.net.
waa-cac1-cd.ibmsmartcloud.com.edgekey.net canonical name = e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net.
Name: e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net
Address: 23.12.125.138

MacBook-Pro-de-Danny:~ danny$ nslookup mail.notes.na.collabserv.com 1.1.1.1
Server: 1.1.1.1
Address: 1.1.1.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
mail.notes.na.collabserv.com canonical name = waa-cac1-cd.ibmsmartcloud.com.edgekey.net.
waa-cac1-cd.ibmsmartcloud.com.edgekey.net canonical name = e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net.
Name: e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net
Address: 23.12.125.138

MacBook-Pro-de-Danny:~ danny$ nslookup e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net 1.1.1.1
Server: 1.1.1.1
Address: 1.1.1.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net
Address: 23.12.125.138

MacBook-Pro-de-Danny:~ danny$ nslookup e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net 8.8.8.8
Server: 8.8.8.8
Address: 8.8.8.8#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net
Address: 96.17.89.135

It is a server farm in the HCL Cloud sometimes 1.1.1.1 sends to the following address
96.17.26.207
and when that happens the mail doesn’t work

The two hosts do resolve correctly to e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net.

However e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net resolves differently on Google’s DNS compared to Cloudflare’s. The former returns 96.17.89.135 whereas the latter 23.12.125.138.

That being an Akamai host I presume you simply get a different IP address because Cloudflare does not support ECS and hence are not routed to the closest machine but the default.

It should still be the correct machine though.

Where 96.17.26.207 comes from is a different question. Check your hosts file.

It is an ip that the ping returns to me when I point to the mentioned addresses … it is the ping that I uploaded at the beginning of the post

MacBook-Pro-de-Danny:~ danny$ ping apps.na.collabserv.com

MacBook-Pro-de-Danny:~ danny$ ping mail.notes.na.collabserv.com

The host file is clean the machine is formatted

Well, as evident from your earlier posting it is not Cloudflare which returns that address. So you are probably using another resolver, which again resolves the address to a third one.

All three addresses are Akamai addresses, so I guess it is not completely off.

In the image you can see the mac settings

Not sure what to say, then your DNS settings are not working :wink:

It is evident from your own output that Cloudflare resolves to the 23 address.

Whats the output of

nslookup apps.na.collabserv.com 1.1.1.1
nslookup apps.na.collabserv.com

MacBook-Pro-de-Danny:~ danny$ nslookup apps.na.collabserv.com 1.1.1.1
Server: 1.1.1.1
Address: 1.1.1.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
apps.na.collabserv.com canonical name = waa-cac1-cd.ibmsmartcloud.com.edgekey.net.
waa-cac1-cd.ibmsmartcloud.com.edgekey.net canonical name = e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net.
Name: e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net
Address: 23.12.125.138

MacBook-Pro-de-Danny:~ danny$ nslookup apps.na.collabserv.com
Server: 1.1.1.1
Address: 1.1.1.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
apps.na.collabserv.com canonical name = waa-cac1-cd.ibmsmartcloud.com.edgekey.net.
waa-cac1-cd.ibmsmartcloud.com.edgekey.net canonical name = e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net.
Name: e10012.cd.akamaiedge.net
Address: 23.12.125.138

Sometimes it responds to the addresses that give problems

Yes, your system does appear to use Cloudflare, however the IP resolution still works. If ping resolves to something else, that would usually be a hosts file but you ruled that out too.

I am afraid at this point the issue is not Cloudflare related any more and you might want to ask over at StackExchange.