Pakbreed.com


#1

Hi,
I am using cloudflare nameservers for both of my wbsites pakbreed.com and dottpk.com and for both of them my visitors are from pakistan.
The problem is when i am pausing cloudflare my loading time reduces and test shows on gtmatrix 2 second but when i am using cloudflare the loading time is increasing up to 5 seconds. can someone please advise what could be reason. cloudflare should increase the speed of my websites instead of decreasing it. thank you


#2

Probably some network issues. Could be one reason. Can you get someone there to open

https://www.pakbreed.com/cdn-cgi/trace
and additionally a manual traceroute to your domains?


#3

hi,

i did not found any folder having name Cdn-cgi


#4

This URL is served off Cloudflare’s system to give you information about the Cloudflare system the client is using to reach your site, and will only work when your site is served through Cloudflare (orange cloud in DNS setting)


#5

Hi,

Cloudflare is active on the site pakbreed.com.

below is the result of traceout
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 13 ms 2 ms 4 ms 172.20.10.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 85 ms 22 ms 25 ms 10.32.87.65
4 34 ms 18 ms 25 ms 86.51.49.121
5 33 ms 31 ms 23 ms 10.224.61.113
6 32 ms 27 ms 26 ms 10.224.61.114
7 38 ms 27 ms 26 ms 86.51.26.76
8 80 ms 33 ms 29 ms 86.51.26.98
9 26 ms 23 ms 26 ms dam-adm-igw-sr-01 [86.51.2.62]
10 34 ms 25 ms 38 ms dam-adm-igw-br-01 [86.51.2.122]
11 55 ms 24 ms 29 ms adma-mgn-msr-01 [86.51.65.139]
12 195 ms 140 ms 167 ms xe7-0-2.franco31.fra.seabone.net [89.221.34.54]
13 269 ms 154 ms 156 ms ae1.franco32.fra.seabone.net [195.22.211.41]
14 145 ms 135 ms 139 ms ae-5.r04.frnkge08.de.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.66.17]
15 181 ms 133 ms 127 ms ae-4.r25.frnkge08.de.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.144]
16 340 ms 310 ms 261 ms ae-8.r22.asbnva02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.4.96]
17 355 ms 356 ms 324 ms ae-5.r23.lsanca07.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.189]
18 352 ms 319 ms 330 ms ae-2.r01.lsanca07.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.4.107]
19 329 ms 348 ms 371 ms 192.80.17.102
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 302 ms 299 ms 296 ms 199.193.7.158
22 321 ms 395 ms 320 ms 199.193.7.118
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 364 ms 300 ms 297 ms business39-4.web-hosting.com [198.54.125.251]

Trace complete.


#6

Is the cloud icon next to your record in Cloudflare’s DNS settings colored ORANGE?

Because 198.54.125.251 is NOT a Cloudflare IP, so no, your site is not served now from Cloudflare:

$ whois 198.54.125.251

ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use

available at: https://www.arin.net/whois_tou.html

If you see inaccuracies in the results, please report at

https://www.arin.net/resources/whois_reporting/index.html

Copyright 1997-2019, American Registry for Internet Numbers, Ltd.

NetRange: 198.54.112.0 - 198.54.127.255
CIDR: 198.54.112.0/20
NetName: NAMEC-4
NetHandle: NET-198-54-112-0-1
Parent: NET198 (NET-198-0-0-0-0)
NetType: Direct Allocation
OriginAS:
Organization: Namecheap, Inc. (NAMEC-4)
RegDate: 2015-11-13
Updated: 2015-11-13
Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/198.54.112.0

OrgName: Namecheap, Inc.
OrgId: NAMEC-4
Address: 11400 W. Olympic Blvd. Suite 200
City: Los Angeles
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 90064
Country: US
RegDate: 2011-01-28
Updated: 2017-01-28
Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/NAMEC-4

ReferralServer: rwhois://whois.namecheaphosting.com:4321

OrgTechHandle: TECHT4-ARIN
OrgTechName: Tech team
OrgTechPhone: +1-323-375-2822
OrgTechEmail: [email protected]
OrgTechRef: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/TECHT4-ARIN

OrgTechHandle: EFIME-ARIN
OrgTechName: Efimenko, Igor
OrgTechPhone: +1-323-375-2822
OrgTechEmail: [email protected]
OrgTechRef: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/EFIME-ARIN

OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE2885-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Abuse team
OrgAbusePhone: +1-323-375-2822
OrgAbuseEmail: [email protected]
OrgAbuseRef: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/ABUSE2885-ARIN

ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use

available at: https://www.arin.net/whois_tou.html

If you see inaccuracies in the results, please report at

https://www.arin.net/resources/whois_reporting/index.html

Copyright 1997-2019, American Registry for Internet Numbers, Ltd.

Found a referral to whois.namecheaphosting.com:4321.

%rwhois V-1.0,V-1.5:00090h:00 billing.web-hosting.com (Ubersmith RWhois Server V-4.1.6)
autharea=198.54.125.0/24
xautharea=198.54.125.0/24
network:Class-Name:network
network:Auth-Area:198.54.125.0/24
network:ID:NET-58027.198.54.125.251
network:Network-Name:business39.web-hosting.com (shared #4)
network:IP-Network:198.54.125.251
network:IP-Network-Block:198.54.125.251
network:Org-Name:Web-hosting.com
network:Street-Address:3402 East University Drive
network:City:Phoenix
network:State:AZ
network:Postal-Code:85034
network:Country-Code:US
network:Tech-Contact:MAINT-58027.198.54.125.251
network:Created:20180718115409000
network:Updated:20181114094714000
network:Updated-By:[email protected]
contact:POC-Name:Network team
contact:POC-Email:[email protected]
contact:POC-Phone:
contact:Tech-Name:Network team
contact:Tech-Email:[email protected]
contact:Tech-Phone:
contact:Abuse-Name:Abuse team
contact:Abuse-Email:[email protected]
%ok


#7

198.54.125.251 is my server ip and yes that is orange image attached.


#8

this is the whos record and i think its correct
Domain:

Registrar:

CloudFlare, Inc.

Registered On:

2018-02-20

Expires On:

2020-02-20

Updated On:

2018-12-15

Status:

clientTransferProhibited

Name Servers:

brit.ns.cloudflare.com
curt.ns.cloudflare.com


#9

Yeah your WHOIS looks fine.

That is very interesting. Because it behaves as if it’s “not orange”. I just checked directly against your Cloudflare’s assigned DNS servers, and indeed they return your IP and not Cloudflare’s.

Side of suggesting to disable/enable it, my only other idea is that maybe the ‘*’ record at the top breaks stuff (though it should not!). Other than that… since it seems like it’s a system misbehavior, I would contact support to ask why an orange-cloud DNS record does not point to Cloudflare’s IP addresses…


#10

that woould be great help.

i would appreciate if you could look at my other domain using cloudlfare dottpk.com


#11

trace out record for dottpk.com
Tracing route to dottpk.com [104.24.119.141]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms 2 ms 3 ms 172.20.10.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 61 ms 26 ms 27 ms 10.32.87.69
4 151 ms 49 ms 38 ms 86.51.49.125
5 37 ms 41 ms 57 ms 10.224.61.113
6 37 ms 37 ms 27 ms 10.224.61.114
7 72 ms 33 ms 38 ms 86.51.26.76
8 29 ms 27 ms 37 ms 86.51.26.98
9 38 ms 34 ms 28 ms dam-adm-igw-sr-01 [86.51.2.62]
10 41 ms 25 ms 37 ms dam-adm-igw-br-01 [86.51.2.122]
11 79 ms 25 ms 48 ms adma-mgn-msr-01 [86.51.65.139]
12 77 ms 47 ms 38 ms 86.51.65.191
13 82 ms 38 ms 46 ms 185.1.15.41
14 48 ms 54 ms 44 ms 104.24.119.141

Trace complete.


#12

The dottpk.com domain indeed goes through Cloudflare CDN, so indeed the URL https://dottpk.com/cdn-cgi/trace should work for your users to see which Cloudflare datacenter the traffic goes through.

As for your personal trace to this site, while not ideal, meaning, not going to a datacenter in your own country (assuming there is one), ~50ms roundtrip is actually very good for an off-country offered service. In comparison, I have about ~56ms to cloudflare and my performance is good.

EDIT: I actually jumped too quickly and read only the end of the trace. The beginning of it looks bad. Maybe you’re in fact in country. The beginning of the trace is not good for a typical broadband connection. Are you on broadband? Or maybe is it dialup/mobile connection?

Maybe Cloudflare does actually serve you in country… check the URL at the beginning of this message to find out the value of “colo=” - this would be the IATA code of the airport closest to the Cloudflare Datacenter serving you.


#13

currently i am in saudi arabia and this trace out was performed in saudi arabia and i am using laptop connected with my phone using my mobile 4g internet.
I wanted dottpk.com to load faster when some one is accessing from Pakistan. because this site is only for pakistan. can you help me out how i can do the corrections if needed and how i can improve the speed. activating cloudflare should increase the performance of the site. Thanks again for supporting me on this


#14

currently i am in saudi arabia and this trace out was performed in saudi arabia and i am using laptop connected with my phone using my mobile 4g internet.
I wanted dottpk.com to load faster when some one is accessing from Pakistan. because this site is only for pakistan. can you help me out how i can do the corrections if needed and how i can improve the speed. activating cloudflare should increase the performance of the site. Thanks again for supporting me on this


#15

currently i am in saudi arabia and this trace out was performed in saudi arabia and i am using laptop connected with my phone using my mobile 4g internet.
I wanted dottpk.com to load faster when some one is accessing from Pakistan. because this site is only for pakistan. can you help me out how i can do the corrections if needed and how i can improve the speed. activating cloudflare should increase the performance of the site. Thanks again for supporting me on this. appreciated.


#16

So these numbers looks great for 4G Internet, IMHO. What does https://dottpk.com/cdn-cgi/trace tell you? Can you post the output? (you can redact your own IP from the output)

If Cloudflare already serves you from a close edge - it should give you better performance - but this is especially true if your content is cachable. So for example, if you send “Cache-Control: max-age=0” or “no-cache” / “no-store”, etc - then Cloudflare is not allowed to cache your content, and will have to go to your server every single time. And if your server is slow, this will not help.


#17

this is the result
fl=60f8
h=dottpk.com
ip=37.127.11.116
ts=1546507969.307
visit_scheme=https
uag=Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/71.0.3578.98 Safari/537.36
colo=DXB
http=h2
loc=SA
tls=TLSv1.3
sni=plaintext


#18

OK, so DXB is Dubai International Airport and I believe Dubai in the UAE is adjacent to SA, right? So the network already takes you to a geographically-near Cloudflare Datacenter. All you need to do next is to make sure your content is cachable…


#19

great. can you let me know that what could be the best cache settings i can set in cloudflare. thanks for helping


#20

Not cloudflare. your own site. see, I loaded it through curl and I can see this:

< date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 10:11:26 GMT
< content-type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
< set-cookie: __cfduid=dbbb0dbbc1896108d9b04e9350f65d9f61546510283; expires=Fri, 03-Jan-20 10:11:23 GMT; path=/; domain=.dottpk.com; HttpOnly; Secure
< cache-control: no-cache, private
< cf-railgun: 8ad0870338 0.53 2.558830 0030 e6be
< set-cookie: ip_country_code=us; expires=Fri, 02-Jan-1970 00:00:00 GMT; Max-Age=0; path=/; domain=dottpk.com
< set-cookie: X-XSRF-TOKEN=OsfjS8Up8zt3DCwxaAQkm95DUoMtlWliEJuXpbO6; path=/; domain=dottpk.com
< set-cookie: laravel_session=eyJpdiI6IjFicURBYUxkSFk3K0J3Ukl2UGlHU2c9PSIsInZhbHVlIjoiWk5DaVwvU2RqUHEyb3dDVjBJbUlFUm9tNmhzakgrUzREUWJTWFFWYWljQ1BFcHJ0NXdPenQ4WjNtSmFuTmdUdFI2N1M0bHp0eVZMSUY3dVwvRFdacU5xdz09IiwibWFjIjoiMjJiMGQxMjZhMTU3NjA3Y2ZjODcyN2I4MTQ1ZTlmZjk2ZWIzMmNhZDRlOGVlNzU3OGYxOTlmYmRjZmVmZTE0NSJ9; expires=Thu, 10-Jan-2019 10:11:25 GMT; Max-Age=604800; path=/; httponly
< vary: Accept-Encoding
< x-powered-by: PHP/7.2.13
< expect-ct: max-age=604800, report-uri=“https://report-uri.cloudflare.com/cdn-cgi/beacon/expect-ct
< server: cloudflare
< cf-ray: 4934ae56fe3f6a0d-LHR

This essentially tells Cloudflare “never cache my pages” - so every time it has to go to your server. In fact, your site might (it depends on some factors) even be slower now with cloudflare because you take an extra roundtrip to Cloudflare, instead of going directly to your server (and you go to your server anyway, because there’s never any caching involved). So you need to see if your app can have pages without cache (it really depends on how dynamic your content is with regards to different viewers…)

On Cloudflare side you can optimize what happens after Cloudflare already gets data from your server and then needs to send it to the user browsing your site - under the “Speed” tab you can enable various “Auto Minify” options. Note that these will change the actual code your visitors get (especially external JS/CSS - which by the way you should DEFINITELY make Cacheable with a long max-age if they’re not, yet…). This will make some of the responses smaller so faster to load. But again, if nothing is cached, then the original ones, before minifications, will have to be downloaded from your server every time…

If you’ve made your site more Cacheable and still things are slow - Cloudflare does have other services, but they cost money depending on how much traffic you get (Argo service) or a very large sum up front (Railgun service, which requires a business plan, which starts at $200/mo., which, depending on your business, could be an insane sum… or something you won’t even feel :-))