Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 DNS Off Routing

[user3996]

Issue: Off-routing of DNS impacting GEO-routing of CDN.
ISP: Jio
Expected: India
Unexpected: Belgium
When issue happens: If I use 1.1.1.1 DNS in Android 9, or Win 10 Network Adapter settings
When issue doesn’t happen: With Android 1.1.1.1 app. I don’t want to use this app.

[cs-cf]

Sorry I’m unclear what issue you’re having. 162.158.234.53 is a Cloudflare IP address. What does it have to do with 1.1.1.1?

[user3996]

Above screenshot is taken from conducted test at DNS Leak tool

DNS Leak Test: Find and Fix DNS Leaks | ExpressVPN

[user3996]

If I test with Google 8.8.8.8 I get India

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If I test with Cloudflare app 1.1.1.1, then also I get India (That’s expected)

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So why I get Belgium location when I use one.one.one.one in Android 9 Settings or Network Adapater (That’s unexpected)

IP Location should be always India regardless of method of using DNS either via app or generic settings.

Exactly, this is off-routing I am referring to which is causing slow Internet Experience when I access any 3rd-Party PullZone that does geo-cast routing.

[seoworks]

This looks very similar to my Problem that i have.

I had to turn off 1.1.1.1 as DNS Resolver in my Router.

ISP Problem: High Latency with HIGH TTFB ! Workers served from other End of the Globe!

I just checked out the Performance Report in the Dash and saw that some of my pages did not have good Performance Numbers even they are static Workers Webpages wich should be served ultra fast by cloudflare using the neares POP Edge as i am even on the PRO Plan. I loaded each Page now for testing in the Webbrowser and saw that all my Workers are served from the other End of the Globe instead from the POP neares to me by cloudflare !!! What the ■■■■ !!! This was not allways like this ! Som…

Some Questions.
Do you have ARGO too like me ?
Asking to isolate Problem more.
If you dont have argo then this is clearly isolated just to the DNS Resolve 1.1.1.1 Service.

[user3996]

@seoworks

Do you have ARGO too like me ?

I do not use Cloudflare CDN at all. A long back, I switched to different provider where I felt satisfactory as per my requirements.

[seoworks]

[quote=“user3996, post:6, topic:228574”]
I do not use Cloudflare CDN at all.[/quote]
Thank you very much for the feedback so this is then a DNS Resolve Issue.
They recently updated a important part of their Software Backbone.
My Understanding is that this New Quicksilver Software Solution is causing the DNS and Rerouting Problems i and others had.

Moving Quicksilver into production

@user3996

A long back, I switched to different provider where I felt satisfactory as per my requirements.

Strange.
I do like what Cloudflare offer with Workers very much.
If my website gains more Popularity i even plan to upgrade from PRO to Bussines Plan to support Cloudflare.
For the moment my Website need get more popular and regain my old SEO Rankings so i am stuck at the moment with PRO Plan.

What were the reasons for the switch and where did you go ?

Think from performance point of view and Price / Value Cloudflare is a own class and unbeatable.
There is nobody who provide this Value for the Price the offer.

I cant imagine there is anyone nearly offering the same for the same Price.
You hvae to be however skilled to use Cloudflare maximal.

[user3996]

@seoworks

What were the reasons

• A most important reason: Poor routing for Indian traffic for Free, Pro and Business Plan. I have experienced this problem on regular basis for past five years.

@seoworks

where did you go ?

• BunnyCDN, I switched here because it has 3 PoPs here and works fine.

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It was a sad decision to leave Cloudflare “CDN” services for which I was familiar with its UI for a long time, but then I also wanted a solution that offers guaranteed regional routing. Enterprise plan was a solution for prioritised routing, but that’s something I can’t afford.

I would be more than happy to see if Cloudflare discontinue free plan and focus on quality routing instead for Indian customer, maybe that helps in maintaining a fair balance for every customer.

It’s sad to see that many commercial sites making a profit are using free plan while it’s clear that Free Plan is for evaluation purpose only. Probably, weak policy implementation has led to such an effect.

[seoworks]

Yeah fully understand and share your view.

lets hope the problems with 1.1.1.1 DNS Resolving problem get solved fast too.
A lot of people report problems since about 10 Days when using 1.1.1.1 as a resolver direct in their Network Settings without to use any app just 1.1.1.1. as a DNS Resolver instead 8.8.8.8.

This is the Problem you have myself and others.

[cs-cf]

@user3996

IP Location should be always India regardless of method of using DNS either via app or generic settings.

162.158.234.53 | IP Geolocation Lookup says that IP is in Los Angeles. It’s probably not in either place.

@user3996

IP Location should be always India regardless of method of using DNS either via app or generic settings.

Probably not. https://one.one.one.one/cdn-cgi/trace would tell you which colo is being hit when using the DoH resolution.

@user3996

geo-cast routing

Cloudflare does not send EDNS0 Client-subnet information to resolvers for privacy reasons. That may impact routing.

[cs-cf]

@user3996

while it’s clear that Free Plan is for evaluation purpose only.

That is absolutely not the case. Our terms and conditions make no such claim or assertion.

[user3996]

@cs-cf

That is absolutely not the case. Our terms and conditions make no such claim or assertion.

Please refer to Cloudflare site which clearly mention in that way -

Also, you can find at
"We offer a Free plan for small personal websites, blogs, and anyone who wants to evaluate Cloudflare" - Google Search

[user3996]

@cs-cf

Cloudflare does not send EDNS0 Client-subnet information to resolvers for privacy reasons. That may impact routing.

Thanks for clarifying. That’s helpful for me. My use case was related to CNAME Flattening where I experienced issues.